Like General Graham [Major General Jackson Graham, Director, March 1963-July 1966],
he was one of the most personable Directors of Civil Works we ever had. I think he knew
everybody, and he talked with everybody. I've never seen a guy who could remember
things like him. You'd give him a presentation on something, and he could make the
presentation on the same subject after just having heard it once and do a good job on it.
He did that all the time.
Of course, he'd go to Congress and make presentations based on what he had heard from
his staff. He had a phenomenal memory for being able to do things like that. I guess, all
that paid off when he was working on the Metro Washington Metropolitan Area Transit
Authority subway system].
Everybody liked him. I don't know anybody that ever had a harsh word about him. Even
a lot of the families of the people that worked in Civil Works knew him. My wife got to
know him real well on the bowling team. He was one of the worst bowlers in the league,
and yet he would come down there every time and bowl and have a good time with
everybody.
Q ..
Well, he's one of those old pre-World War II Engineer officers. I mean not much pre,
but certainly pre.
Then you'd hear about all the great things he had done when he was out in the field. He
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was really a person who looked after details. He wasn't too good to go out into the worst
conditions and fmd out what was going on. He'd make sure things were going right. If
there was any inkling of something being wrong or needing improvement, he'd go out and
look at it on the site, no matter where he had to go to look at it. When he was working
on the Metro, he use to spend his weekends running up and down with a motorcycle.
Which is dedication at it's ultimate, I guess.
Major General Joseph
Q ..
That's true. Which one of the Directors most influenced the directorate during the years
you were there I imagine the years at the end of Heiberg's tour and the beginning of