more, to me, like he was more concerned about that than he was about getting the job
done. Some of the others--you see people like that who seem to come first before the
organization does.
Alex
Q ..
What about Alex Shwaiko?
A ..
Well, I knew Alex pretty good. I knew him about as well as any of those people. Well,
what can I say about Alex. We'd go out in the field, we'd go to conferences out there.
Onetime he came to the meeting, he wasn't prepared at all until he got into this meeting.
He didn't have the foggiest idea of what we were going to be talking about.
He hadn't been briefed or anything. So he took an absence from the meeting. He was
gone for a couple of hours while we were meeting and then he came back later, and he
was right on top of everything. He kind of took over the meeting then.
But sometimes he just wasn't prepared, and I don't know whether he just hadn`t had time
to get his briefing or he had forgotten what the whole thing was all about. But once he
got all of his notes together and remembered what the hell was going on, why then he was
right on top of it. He would get things done. But it use to be puzzling to me how he
could do that. But he had a lot of meetings, I'm sure, that he had to go to, and Alex did
not like to delegate authority to others. He was quite the guy though.
Q ..
Well, now he was a person that moved from Programs to Policy or something, wasn't it?
A ..
Well, he was in charge of Planning.
Q ..
Planning to Policy.
A
If some of those jobs changed, I think they were just trying to make way for somebody
else, they moved some people around so that they can get a person they want in there who
has some special capability. So they move another guy. I think that's what happened to
Alex.