Q ..
When he was Chief?
A ..
Yes.
Q ..
Because he was Chief from `57 to '61.
A ..
Oh, that's when he was Chief rather than when he was in Civil Works, yes?
Q ..
Yes, `61, right. I think he was a deputy before he became Chief. I think he was
Itschner's Deputy Chief of Engineers. Then he replaced Sturgis, I mean. He
replaced Sturgis.
A
Yes. Was he probably either the Assistant Chief of Civil Works or Chief of
Engineers when Colonel Whipple was Executive.
Q ..
Whipple is the guy apparently that pushed the computerization program, and he's
the one that was involved with John von Neumann.
A ..
What?
Q ..
He was the one involved with John von Neumann. Remember you talked about Von
Neumann? Because Whipple knew, he was associated with people at Princeton.
A ..
I see. That`s where he knew Von Neumann.
Q ..
And he got Von Neumann apparently to come down and do that seminar you were
talking about.
A ..
Yes, yes.
Q ..
Because after he retired, he went to Princeton to teach civil engineering.
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