the time it was created I was at the Library of Congress, but I recall that their
report recommended establishment of the Inter-Agency Committee on Water
Resources. So then we were able to say they accomplished something. They
changed the FIREBRICK to I C E W A T E R.
Didn't amount to anything, so far
A: No, it wasn't that much of a change. Gene Weber had quite a hand in that
committee as I recall, and it eventually led to the production of Senate
Document 97, but by that time I was up at the Library of Congress.
Chiefs of Engineers and Water Resources
Ted, I would like you to talk some more about your work within the Bureau of
the Budget. The period is the mid-1950s. I want to explore that a little bit more
with you, particularly the relations between the Bureau of the Budget and
specifically between yourself and various people in water resources at this time.
Let's start with the Corps of Engineers. At this time General Sam Sturgis was
Chief of Engineers. Can you give me a little thumbnail sketch, perhaps, of
General Sturgis, what you might remember about him and his concerns about
water resources?
A: Yes. I recall that Sam Sturgis followed Lewis Pick as Chief of Engineers, and
I guess all I can say is we had very cordial relationships but not too many direct
relationships with the Chief of Engineers. We dealt primarily with the chief of
Civil Works and also the staff, and particularly Joe Tofani, who had succeeded
Ken Bousquet as the person who was primarily responsible for the budget. We
had very good relationships with Joe Tofani and with members of his staff. I
knew them all very well, because I had been meeting quite a bit with the
Corps' staff when I was in the Bureau of Reclamation. And so I don't have
much recollection about Sam Sturgis.
Then, General Emerson Itschner succeeded him, and I was much closer to
General Itschner, because-you remember, I was there in the Eisenhower
administration, which was purported to be and had the perception of being a
conservative administration-we didn't feel that Sturgis was really on our side.
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