you're sitting, what the priorities were. But, obviously, when people have two different
goals, they going to lock horns once in awhile. And we did occasionally.
Q.
Yes, well, I locked horns with Lew, too. I didn't come anywhere near winning_
Oh, he was a tough person to battle with. He went after me a couple of times. But a lot
A
of times, I think, generals kind of used him, too. They thought he was willing to take on
all kinds of adversity to get something done. Save them a lot of headaches. So they let
him go ahead and do it, even though they may not agree wholeheartedly with everything
he was doing, why not let him fight the battle for them. He'd do it. So, it all depends on
your outlook and where you're sitting whether he was doing a real good job or not as good
of a job. But Lew and I got along fine as long as we weren't working on something
together. If we were just talking about the weather and so forth, why we could do that
pretty peacefully.
Survey Reports
Q ..
Well, there is certainly a very great price to pay when you begin to sacrifice quality for
time. Especially, I imagine in your area where you really need to be careful in what
you're doing?
A
One of the biggest problems I think we had was headquarters never did come to a final or
a straightforward position on what they wanted with survey reports. They were always
vacillating back and forth. One day it would be we want just the rough estimate of what
the answer should be and then we'll take care of it when we get into the general design
phase. We'll do all the detailed work and fix things up when we get into the general
design phase. That's all right if you do it, but they didn't do it.
Then when they got to the general design phase, "Oh, well, that's suppose to have been
all settled in the survey report. We shouldn't have to rehash this stuff. I'd say, "Well,
you guys didn't do anything in the survey report. How can you say that it's all done if
you didn't do it in the survey report, you've got to do it some place. Now I never did
have a particular concern about whether it got done up front in the survey report or
whether it got done later in the General Design Memorandum as long as it got done.
But I got hit both ways. The planning people said, "We don't want to spend a lot of
money on hydrology and hydraulics on the survey report. We'll do it in a General Design
Memo." I'd say, "Well, okay. Then I get to the General Design Memo, and the guy in
charge of the General Design Memo, he'd say, "Oh, they did that in the survey report.