Vernon
this program. The President has told us we're going to do it and I'm telling you I'm
working for the President. He said, "I'm going to do it, and you're working for me,
you're going to do it." It's either do the job or find some other job.
Q ..
Was that Chief Jack Morris?
A ..
Well, was it Jack? I don't remember, it might have been Jack. Might have been him.
Q ..
That sounds like something he'd say.
But anyway, it probably was him. Can't remember for sure. But anyway, whoever it was
A
at the time, he really came down hard on the field offices and said, "By god, let's not hear
any more of this moaning and groaning and stuff like that. Let's get with the program."
So it
got going. But, there were still a lot of people out there that weren't willing
to make any kind of commitments.
got to the point where we didn't really say that any of them were safe. We just
We
wouldn't say they were safe. They were just kind of a no case. If it wasn't unsafe, we
didn't say much about them. If we found things that were unsafe, why we would report
them. Otherwise we just gave them an informational package on what the dam was all
about and what it did and not say anything regarding safety.
Al
and Gail Hathaway
Q ..
Several minutes ago you talked about Al
and what he meant to you. Wasn't he
was one of the first people to get hydrology accepted at OCE?
A
He wasn't the father of hydrology. Gail Hathaway was the father. Al was the guy that
went out and sold a lot of it after Gail had first got it going good. But he worked for Gail.
He and Frank Snyder were the two of Gail's disciples I guess--hydrology disciples or
whatever you call them. They were the ones that really sold the program to the Corps and
to everybody else. But Gail was the one that started it off. I never worked for him but
I knew the man.
When I went to OCE, Al was in charge and Gail was working for the chief as a special
assistant. But Gail really had a lot of respect from all the people all over the world for his
ability. Well, he was head of the ASCE [American Society of Civil Engineers] one year
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